7 responses to “Defining Socialism”

  1. ConsDemo

    I agree that Obama may be a socialist, but are the Republicans any different? Their “Seniors bill of rights” suggests Medicare spending can never be restrained. Whatever doctors and their patients want to bill, the taxpayers have to cough up, no questions asked. Isn’t that also socialist?

  2. orgthingy

    Hello,
    I’ll start-off by saying I’m a socialist that doesn’t like Obama. Reason? It’s because Obama isn’t a socialist; he’s most likely a Social-Democrat (or as far as I can see). Bailing out the bankers and corporations, continuing his Imperialist project, his plan doesn’t nationalize all of health industry too…Sir, that isn’t Socialism.

    Socialism is workers’ ownership of means of production and state offering free necessary services like Health-care, education and such.

    Both Democrats and Republicans are capitalists, please realize that..

  3. orgthingy

    Probably it’d be nationalized, I don’t know..but just because he isn’t a supporter of Free Market Capitalism doesn’t mean he’s a Socialist..he’s a “Social-Democrat” as far as Capitalism goes..Social-Democrats are still Capitalists even if they dislike the Free Market

  4. mike g

    This is how much America Elephant understands about socialism:

    Under President Obama we have seem a massive expansion in the Federal government into the banking industry. The Federal Government bought AIG, has a massive stake in CitiGroup, and has taken over, seized or closed 84 other banks so far in 2009.

    From the September 16th 2008 issue of the Wall Street Journal:

    The U.S. government seized control of American International Group Inc. — one of the world’s biggest insurers — in an $85 billion deal that signaled the intensity of its concerns about the danger a collapse could pose to the financial system.

    George W. Bush was president when AIG was bailed out.

    From the November 24th, 2008 issue of the Wall Street Journal:

    The federal government agreed Sunday night to rescue Citigroup Inc. by helping to absorb potentially hundreds of billions of dollars in losses on toxic assets on its balance sheet and injecting fresh capital into the troubled financial giant.

    The agreement marks a new phase in government efforts to stabilize U.S. banks and securities firms. After injecting nearly $300 billion of capital into financial institutions, federal officials now appear to be willing to help shoulder bad assets, on a targeted basis, from specific institutions.

    From the December 19th issue of the New York Times:

    WASHINGTON — The emergency bailout of General Motors and Chrysler announced by President Bush on Friday gives the companies a few months to get their businesses in order, but hands off to President-elect Barack Obama the difficult political task of ruling on their future.

    The plan pumps $13.4 billion by mid-January into the companies from the fund that Congress authorized to rescue the financial industry. But the two companies have until March 31 to produce a plan for long-term profitability, including concessions from unions, creditors, suppliers and dealers.

    YOU, sir, are the one that needs to do the research.

    One thing is clear; AmericanElephant has absolutely no compunction about smearing Barack Obama a socialist for continuing an economic agenda that George W. Bush enacted.

  5. mike g

    Sorry, I should have put this in quotes:

    “Under President Obama we have seem a massive expansion in the Federal government into the banking industry. The Federal Government bought AIG, has a massive stake in CitiGroup, and has taken over, seized or closed 84 other banks so far in 2009.”

    I think everyone gets the point; that you’re only interested in socialism as a pejorative term. Furthermore, you’re more than willing to overlook historical fact (either out of ignorance or intention) to make cheap rhetorical points.

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